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                  1. Last season I promised to release mini analyses of the running anime that piqued my interest/gave us stuff to talk about. Unfortunately life got in the way. It's actually happening this time around. These threads will be updated regularly and may become essays. SAO III SEASON 3
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                  So some of you may know, despite its flaws, I have some good things to say about SAO. It has deep issues but it's also better than a lot of shows and there are some themes that I can say SAO does better than pretty much any other anime.
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                SAO II is actually my favorite SAO. I'd be comfortable calling SAO II a "good show". Ordinal Scale is also "a good movie" in my book. SAO I and III have commendable elements, but I wouldn't call them "good" overall. They're okay at best.
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              The reason why I'm paying attention to SAO III Season 3 is because it's thematically interesting. It has 2 running threads that are being handled quite well right now. On the one hand, you have the main cast fighting off what is essentially US imperialism....
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            ... On the other, there's a complete subversion of the "evil race" archetype. The show introduces us to hordes of dark-skinned "evil people" only to pan back and argue that their lives are worth just as much as any human and the only reason why the humans think otherwise is to...
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          ...prop up a blood-thirsty, self-serving regime that's a threat to both humans and the "evil" creatures. It's well done, and SAO III Season 3's first episode hammers this point home. So. What's the catch?
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        So if you know anything about SAO, it's kind of known for having one one-screen rape every season and this episode was a renewal of this fine tradition
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      Since finishing the source material for SAO, Kawahara Reki has since stopped... writing these. Which is good but also makes it worse when you see stuff adapted from his old work and it still has these bad habits.
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    The narrative is really convinced that the only way to show a male character is a good person is to stop some woman somewhere from being raped. And you know what? Plenty of other ways to do this that aren't terrible in every way. Shocking, I know.
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      I'm at the point where I can rank SAO's rapes from most to least problematic. A conversation for another time, probably, but, in general, ONE SHOW SHOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH RAPES FOR ME TO RANK THEM S T O P
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        I think the worst part of this scene is that I'm not even sure who half the characters involved were. Circumstances had to be engineered for this scene to happen.
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          I could be talking about how the show has a potential to handle racism in a mature way, but I can't because this undoes all the good will you might have had going into it.
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            So I have to continue this thread by noting that SAO keeps doing the thing where it thinks making a villain a rapist is the best way to let us know he's, like, totally evil and stuff
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              I don't want to harp on it forever, because I don't want my objection to the trope to feel performative. But it would also be irresponsible to not point out this has and continues to be the biggest issue with SAO
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              1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                Aside from this terrible habit that continues to not go away for some reason, the show has been launching a pretty coherent critique of American imperialism, actually since last season. And I want to talk about that as well.
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                  If you read Bullshit no Yuusha 1, you'd know the main thesis of SAO is that the real world matters as much as the virtual world. Who you are irl and who you are online are deeply connected, and this presents endless opportunity for growth and human connection.
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                    It's not a difficult thesis to understand, and yet many don't. And by many, I mean Geoff from Mother's Basement. Anyway.
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                      There's an unstated assertion in SAO's themes. Online relationships and experiences are as important as irl ones, but these benefits are constantly under threat by corporations and governments.
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                        The big, institutional villains of SAO are basically almost always corporate entities or governments. This season features a Japanese company selling data to the American government, so they can build AI weapons assert a new order of US imperialism world-wide
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                          The corporations use nationalist rhetoric to get people to put their "lives" (virtual, not real) on the line to defend what they think are their country's interests. But they're always just the interests of monopoly capital.
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                            When SAO is being this show -- the show about defending all the wonderful things about video games and the Internet from cynical attacks by the elites... it's being very good and a show I'd honestly recommend to others.
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                              When SAO does literally anything else, including trying to make statements about abuse victims, I kinda wish it was never made
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                                This show thinks its Eva, which I thought was funny
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                                  Unrelated, but I approve of translating nakama as comrade in subs, just because it makes it easier to make lefty memes
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                                    Boy I sure am glad I watched the movie and somewhat recognized who these people were, otherwise this scene would have no emotional impact whatsoever
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                                    1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                      I want to talk briefly about how SAO handles racism. SAO, I think, does racism better than every other show this season. This is not a compliment. SAO does not to racism well. It's just not actual garbage
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                                      1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                        Things SAO does well here: the idea that racism can be used by the powerful to manipulate the masses into serving their own interets. Like this dude is so racist he mind controls people into killing each other, and then feeds off that energy. It's a solid analogy.
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                                          Unfortunately it makes the reason why this guy is racist because he was personally wronged by Japanese people in the past. If racism is caused by people personally wronging others, then there's no fixing it. Because of that the analogy falls apart.
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                                            However, it's leagues and bounds ahead of Re:Zero and The Misfit of Demon Academy, so there's that.
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                                              Overall, SAO has always been a deeply flawed show. I like it for some very specific reasons I've gone into in the past, but there's always glaring issues with storytelling, themes, and politics that prevent it from being truly great.
                                              1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                SAO, at least half the time, is complete bullshit. But if you twist its arm, and you force it to focus, and deliver a satisfying emotional arc. It'll do that, and it'll do it well. I'll always give SAO credit for that.
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                                                1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                  It's been a really long time since we saw Kirito as himself with his loved ones. Arguably like, 2 and half seasons since then. And a lot of really poor writing decisions have transpired since then and now. And even still, I'm really happy that he's back. It's weird
                                                  1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                    SAO is what I'll call bare-minimum good. You can just sorta cobble together an enjoyable experience between all the padding that really doesn't work at all.
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                                                      Anyway, more memes. 1) lol she touched titty 2) this show still thinks it's Eva
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                                                      1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                        Dang it's been a while, huh? So SAO. What is it about this show that makes me give it chance after chance after chance, while I rip shows like Re:Zero and Rent a Girlfriend up and down every week?
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                                                          @Rebel_Panda1 boop
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                                                          My principle: if you can do something that I care about with some level of quality, I'll keep coming back even if the rest of the show is like, garbage.
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                                                            The fundamental theme of SAO throughout all of its seasons is simple: what happens in virtual and fictional worlds is just as real and just as meaningful as what happens in real life.
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                                                              In SAO we explore this literally (if you die in the game you die in real life). Then in ALO we explore Suguha and how she gets over her emotional hang-ups by playing the game (we'll ignore the incest for the time being) (wow what a sentence)
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                                                                Then we have Sinon and her trauma she tries to fix in GGO. And then Asuna finds the meaning of family through her friendship with Yuuki. And then we start this underworld arc where we throw are hands up and meet fully-fledged humans who exist entirely in the virtual world.
                                                                1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                  As SAO progresses, we kind of see an addendum to the core theme emerge. Yes the virtual world and real world are equivalent, but they are also under constant threat by corporations and states. And only when the people control technology can it be used for good.
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                                                                    When SAO tries and focuses on this core conceit, I really, truly enjoy the show. Not only is SAO built around this premise, it's one of the best shows to explore this idea
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                                                                    1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                      And, as an added bonus, SAO passes the Shield Hero test! It refuses to justify actual slavery. I know this is a low bar but they gave Subaru a slave army last week so work with me here, *work with me*!
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                                                                      1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                        SAO would be one of my favorite shows if it focused on this all of the time. Unfortunately, it's only really itself 10%-30% of the time.
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                                                                          SAO wants to be a MATURE show about MATURE things, but it fails to realize the one theme at its core *is* the mature thing! So it goes off on all these tangents about love and power and rape and feminism and redemption and it's all just so so bad
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                                                                            It's really not the show to handle any of these other topics but it spends so much time trying to and just either being mediocre or failing entirely.
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                                                                              Like seriously what the fuck what does this mean what what is this sentence
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                                                                                It wants to do a love triangle with all of the female characters even his sister (again, another time) and how they all love Kirito. And Alice talks about how she's in love with him and I just... don't care
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                                                                                  He's already married? And I like Kirito and Asuna. Why don't they spend time together? Why 500 other girls? Holy shit, I'm losing it!
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                                                                                  1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                                    Give Alice something else to do! She's literally one of the most interesting characters on screen! SHE IS A WARRIOR FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION AND ALL SHE CARES ABOUT IS KIRITO'S COCK?? REALLY???? What must be going through her mind right now? idk, just Kirito I guess 🙄
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                                                                                    1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                                      The show wants to rehabilitate Kayaba Akihiko but all it's done is: - tell us he murdered 1000 people for no reason - tell us he was a tortured and complicated man Which is not enough as it turns out. It's the Steven Universe redemption arc! (the worst kind)
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                                                                                      1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                                        The show will probably end the way it's been for all these years: a mix of good and bad with its stans and haters fighting a forever war in the Middle East
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                                                                                          SAO is over, huh? Like, just the whole thing is over. The whole phenomenon just gone. Wow.
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                                                                                            Jk lol you thought this show cums money especially in Japan
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                                                                                            1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                                              But it is still the end of the core light novel series, which in and of themselves were more or less cleaned up from the original light novels. Kirito may return, and SAO may continue for many years to come, but this really is the end of an era.
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                                                                                                I'm not going to sit here and pretend SAO has ever had stellar writing. I mean, just in the War of the Underworld arc alone there's just so much stuff that really just doesn't work narratively.
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                                                                                                  Rehabilitating The Administrator is really dumb. Like the big titty purple lady? Remember her?
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                                                                                                    The was the pinnacle of evil in the first half of this arc but after her death the show wants to make her out to be some kind of sympathetic mentor figure in the second. She's not. She's literally just a genocidal maniac. I don't know where this redemption comes from.
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                                                                                                      I had a whole essay comparing her regime to late capitalism but the show itself obviously doesn't see that connection at all which is disappointing.
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                                                                                                        We can talk about how SAO tends to have a rape scene a season. We can also talk about the fact that A-1 pictures deliberately chooses to play up these scenes, sometimes when they're more tame in the novels, bc they think it sells.
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                                                                                                          We can talk about this arc's bizarre af pacing. Kawahara Reki seems to have made a mistake that I do when I write. Which is you get to a place that you think is cool and you just spend way too much time doing cool stuff instead of pacing the story.
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                                                                                                            It's obvious Kawahara really liked the Underworld as a concept, and really liked Eugeo, but the story spends too much time there and not enough with characters who have active arcs, like Asuna.
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                                                                                                              And on and on. If you want to find SAO writing missteps, you will find them, because they're there. But here's the thing...
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                                                                                                                The discourse around SAO is not that it's a flawed show that makes mistakes, but that it's a garbage show that only baby anime fans like because they're dumb poopooheads. And SAO is not that show either.
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                                                                                                                  I've said this in Bullshit no Yuusha, I've said it in this thread, and I'll say it again: SAO is not literally the worst show ever made.
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                                                                                                                    I cannot believe, a decade after this show came out, a decade in which the genre that SAO popularized: the isekai light novel power fantasy, has pumped out dumpster fire after dumpster fire, we're still acting like SAO is the problem here.
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                                                                                                                      It's not so much that I'm upset SAO is underrated. Plenty of shows that I love are underrated. This season, Deca Dence is sorely underrated. That's fine. I understand my taste is superior to the rest of the Internet /s
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                                                                                                                        What I'm actually upset about is that the discourse around this show HASN'T MOVED IN AN ENTIRE DECADE!
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                                                                                                                          In 2013/4 I was a teen and I remember not beign into anime so much but having friends that were. Actually, it's really funny I ended up like this. If there was an award for it I'd probably have been voted "least likely to become a weeb" in High School
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                                                                                                                            But anyway, I remember them sitting around, watching SAO Abridged, laughing at this show which was supposedly the worst, most cringe, most cursed thing ever created by man's undeserving hands.
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                                                                                                                              And it amazes me that, years later, after finally having the chance to catch up with the show and experience this first hand, that all the talking points on the SAO stan/hater side are exactly the same.
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                                                                                                                                Content creators like Diginee and Mother's Basement have long since moved on from these reductive stances on SAO after making bank on that stuff for years. SAO itself is a much different show than what Aincrad was.
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                                                                                                                                  AND YET WE'RE STILL HERE. There's an entire industry of SAO """discourse""" that seems to run in perpetuity for no reason.
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                                                                                                                                    And that really bothers me because whether or not you like or hate this show, there's more going on here than just "Kirito is overpowered lol" "he's edgy lol" "he beat Kayaba lol" "2 years worth of semen lol"
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                                                                                                                                      As SAO:Progressive comes out in a few years, I want people to start looking at SAO for what it is, and not the metalore we've built up on the Internet for clicks.
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                                                                                                                                        Above all, I love good media analysis. That's what I strive to bring you guys. That and communism, of course.
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                                                                                                                                          And now for some series finale reactions. This is the world Elon Musk wants:
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                                                                                                                                            "I love Emilia"
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                                                                                                                                              Oh no she's cute
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                                                                                                                                                Alice's stance here is a real medieval swords stance. Kirito's... not so much
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                                                                                                                                                  I like this little bit here where Alice lights up and then switches on chivalry mode. And Suguha's reaction is nice too. Hey, characterization! How's that?
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                                                                                                                                                  1. …in reply to @__MoBlack
                                                                                                                                                    So this show was already pretending to be Eva. I'm please to inform you that it also pretends to be Gurren Lagann Seriously, if this was paced better, we could see just what kinds of changes Kirito and Asuna were able to bring in just 200 years, and what that says
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                                                                                                                                                      "I didn't know Cthulu was in this one"
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                                                                                                                                                        As the show has ended, consider this the end of my SAO Season III Part 2 thread. Thanks a bunch. Peace, y'all